09 December 2024

LEGO® parts 77845 & 77850: rounded plates

Posted by Kev Levell

Occasionally, a new LEGO® part will present opportunities that I haven't encountered before. The family of rounded plates received two further wonderful new additions in 2023, and although they’re not quite so new anymore I felt that they were worthy of some exploration.

lego plates with rounded ends, in various sizes and colours

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LEGO round plates 1x4, 1x3 and 1x2

Since their introduction last year, the two new rounded plates have really found their place in the LEGO® System.

lego parts 77850 & 77845 in various colours
  • Part 77845, Plate Special 1 x 4 Rounded with 2 Open Studs – Available 6 colours in over 50 sets (white and yellow not shown)
  • Part 77850, Plate Special 1 x 3 Rounded with 3 Open Studs – Available in 6 colours in over 130 sets (medium nougat not shown)

8 different lego plates that all have rounded ends. All are 1 module wide but lengths and connection points differ. About half are Technic plates, long out of production.
photo by Thomas Jenkins

These two parts are of course members of a bigger family that Thomas Jenkins outlined all the way back in February 2023 in his brilliant coverage of set 76918 McLaren Solus GT & F1 LM.

They follow in the footprints of the 1x2 version:

rounded 1x2 lego plates in 22 different colours all stacked in a pile

Part 35480, Plate Special 1 x 2 Rounded with 2 Open Studs, was introduced in 2018 and is now available in 23 colours in over 1240 sets. (Medium nougat is not pictured as it had only just been released in 21353 Botanical Gardens and 5009005 Entrance Gate at the time I took this photo.)

I am struggling to work out how I ever built without it. It’s a great little part, and I find myself using it more and more in the exploration phases of my builds in favour of regular 1x2 plates (3023), just in case those hollow studs turn out to be useful! The same is probably true of the 1x1 version (28626, 29387, 85861) introduced in 2009 exclusively to LEGO® Games.


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Triangulating rounded plates

2 triangles and a pentagon made from lego rounded plates and shoes for friends minidolls

Recently as part of our ‘After-Party Fest', I found myself mucking around with the round-ended plates 35480, 77850 & 77845 as a result of some of my experiments with the mini-doll shoes (5107) shown above.

The first thing I found was that the rounded end plates can create a really neat equilateral triangular structure.

lego triangles with even more rounded plates stacked above and below

There is more to this geometry though; connections that normal plates just won’t allow. It's obviously down to that radius and the ability to pivot on the stud as an axis point.


2 lego snake-like arrangements of rounded plates

It helps in established chain-building, and curved wall techniques too.


further applications of the triangular lego construction, with multiples connected as a tesselation

That wasn’t what really interested me though. It was the simple neatness of the combination of the 3- and 4-module long plates that allows a perfect triangle with 60° corners. To my eyes, they connect in pleasing ways when the idea is extended further too, pushing the idea towards hexagons and tessellations.


a triangular lego arrangement achieved with a centrally placed 3-pronged lego technic axle connector

That geometry is seldom possible with standard LEGO bricks and plates. However, there are other ways to make equilateral triangles, using LEGO® Technic pieces like the triple axle connector (10288, 49155) for example.



The Batman accessories/weapons family mould of pieces (50018, above top left) which was in a popular Parts Fest we ran in 2019 has a triple bar element that allows similar configurations too. 

As does the weapon holder ring (20612 and the more recent mould adjustment, 1941, above bottom left). Furthermore, those parts can be integrated here.

I was pleased to find that the rounded plates can also be attached to the Nexogon (27255, above top right) too; another Parts Fest favourite of ours.



lego tetrahedron made of 1x4 rounded plates and bricks with studs on the sides

Tom Loftus's neat technique from his After-PartyFest article using the new cloud piece (5518) can also be used to produce this neat little tetrahedron.

I found it really quite addictive to explore the manifold arrangements, like some weird fiddle toy. I’ve no doubt I have only scratched the surface of this technique and what is possible in a broader sense with these parts.

Possible LEGO Blacktron or Zelda Triforce logo


triangular lego road signs with guns clipped to the back, ready to be attached to a hexagonal construction made of rounded plates

It’s possible to create a perfect tessellation of the triangle signs (30259, 3972865676) using this construction too… although why this particular arrangement of elements might be of interest to fans of late 1980s LEGO Space* is beyond me ;-)

grey triangle made of 4 lego triangle road signs. With black and yellow triangles instead, this would look like a Lego Blacktron logo.

If only I had one of those yellow ones – not seen in sets for 12 years now – I could create a perfect Blacktron logo. For Zelda fans, you'll have to wait for LEGO to release a gold one in order to recreate the Triforce logo!


*see pages 128 to 136 of LEGO Space 1978-1992 by some guy called Tim Johnson.


MOC inspired by parts 77845 & 77850

In a triangle-about fashion, I got carried away with my initial exploration and built a spaceship based upon that original layout of elements.

a blue and grey lego spaceship with 3 large fin shaped wings and a snub nose

Part of the inner structure can be "plugged" up with the triangular road sign. I’ve used the current 65676 variant, and mini-doll shoes are essential here to allow this because of a tiny recess at the back of the element between the ‘feet’.

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various triangular and hexagonal layers of lego

That basic inner structure is a stack of 77850 & 77845s laced with various other components and brackets to allow the fuselage (bodywork) and wings to be attached.


4 images showing the interior of a lego spaceship with a hexagonal core

Mostly it’s buried inside, but the rear view does reveal some of that inner structure.


front and rear views of a somewhat shark-shaped lego spaceship

Triangles make very strong structures and I wanted to make this a functional-looking ship; not sleek and beautiful, but strong and perhaps in the Brutalist design school.


rear and side views of a lego spaceship

The trans-black canopy (6511015 | 5241) from the LEGO® Icons 10327 Dune Atreides Royal Ornithopter and the 2x5 sloped wedges (3504 & 3505) were the perfect parts to continue that blunt, functional look.

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There are most likely many more applications of these techniques, but hopefully I've covered the most important angles.

What have you built with the rounded plates that could not have been achieved otherwise?


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READ MORE: We pick our best new LEGO® parts of 2024

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5 comments:

  1. Fun exploration! And you didn't even include any Technic liftarms! I'm curious about the development history of the 1x1 plate with hole, it would have been cool to get it molded with only a small groove at the base (like a tile has).

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    1. Obvs it's just a standard 1x1 plate with hole added, I just wonder if they considered other geometry more like older 1x1 round bricks had, etc. The 1x1 round plate's prominent ridge at the edge is uncommon. There's the 1x1 round with bar espresso handle part, but nothing else comes to mind? Robot arms, fence feet, etc. that have a 1x1 round base are built differently. But then now we have this new 1x1 round with bar at a right angle downward, and it doesn't have that ridge and reduced base diameter of the 1x1 plate! Fascinating.

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    2. I've often wondered about alternate round 1x1 plates and if they considered alternative approaches. You're right, it's fascinating!

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  2. Thanks for all the useful information! These explorations are very inciteful. I'm definitely the most excited about the Nexogon integration.

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    1. I'm a big fan of the Nexogon too! It was the first time I took part in a New Elementary parts fest, so I shall forever be grateful for where it has led me!

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